tdasara
02-11 05:31 PM
I am not sure if non-citizen complaints are expected!......
USCIS releases the allocation numbers but at its will.
USCIS releases the allocation numbers but at its will.
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whoever
02-07 12:55 PM
I predict the movement of PD for april'07 will be significant for EB2 India, EB3 ROW for sure. They would not hold up everyone in EB2 India, EB3 ROW at the current priority dates.
walking_dude
04-26 11:56 PM
Newer version is - as should've been expected - more protectionist than before.
1) It prohibits H1B workers from working in contract positions.There is a redundant provision for the L1 visa as well (there is already a law which does this for L1). However it doesn't prevent American companies from keeping these contract workers in India or elsewhere and co-ordinate the work through web-conferencing, video conferencing, VPN/VNC etc.
2) It increases H1B fees by another 1000 dollars. There will be the added cost of advertising on DOL website. Also, the legal costs of navigating the audits. It also enables Tort attorneys to sue the companies on behalf of labor unions such as IEEE-USA, PG, Bright Future Jobs, Zazona etc. In essence it makes the whole visa program unviable. American companies cannot participate in the visa program without letting the DOL and the Tort attorneys poking their noses in the daily functioning of Corporate America. Imagine which company will apply for H1B when you'll have ads airing on TV from Tort attorneys - 'Have you been displaced by H1B worker? Call 1-800-TORT-ATTORNEY'?
3) It has a whole gamut of so-called 'H1B/L1B worker protections'. Unless and until the complaining foreign worker's visa status/GC status is protected against employer retaliation, these provisions will remain only on paper, as foreigner workers facing the prospect of forced departure from the country will not complain - extra worker protections or not. They might as well scrap these provisions and save some trees in the process!
4) It retains the provision that H1B/L1 worker must be provided all originals for H1B, Green Card etc. However this will be moot, as there won't be many H1B/L1 workers left in the US to take the benefit. They would already have moved to their home countries, brining the salaries down in their home countries die to excess supply. This combined with technical enablers are going to make outsourcing HOT. I think it's a good time to invest in the stocks of these outsourcing companies. Their returns are going to increase exponentially in a year. I am not surprised, if these companies send a 'Thank You' note to Senators Durbin and Grassley for making such a windfall possible.
If this year only 44,000 visas were used after half a month, wait until this law passes. There will already 10,000 or less visa applications. On a short term basis wages will sky-rocket, when companies are already struggling to make the ends meet. This will definitely make the usage of technological innovations such as the ones mentioned in point 1 more appealing to the companies. In the long run Outsourcing will become cheaper and more attractive.
Faced with accute worker shortage and unreasonably high-salaries driven scarcity in an economy under recession, Companies will have only 3 options. 1) Announce bankruptcy and get out of business salvaging what they can 2) Leverage technology to do outsourcing circumventing the need for visas 3) Beg the government for another 'Stimulus' and more borrowed money from the Chinese to pay the salaries.
This will hit hard the humanitarian immigration for refugees, asylees etc. USCIS is a government department run on visa application fees. As H1B fee-base reduces US government will have to appropriate more funds to USCIS to keep these programs running. The cost of these programmes will increasingly be borne by the American tax-payer. As jobs keep getting outsourced at a much faster speed tax-base formed by these H1B/L1 workers will shift to other economies benefiting them, the government will have to increases the taxes to make up for the difference. No doubt this will increase the tax burden on an average American - even those who had nothing to do with H1B, pro- or against.
The day this law passes will be a great day for Outsourcing, and a sad day for America.
Please stop H1 Vs L1 discussion and do not support those who aim to divide this community on various visa types, categories, nationalities etc. Any further attempts by any member in this direction will result in ban. We would appreciate if you read the bill posted by IV and provide some analysis on its content on this thread.
1) It prohibits H1B workers from working in contract positions.There is a redundant provision for the L1 visa as well (there is already a law which does this for L1). However it doesn't prevent American companies from keeping these contract workers in India or elsewhere and co-ordinate the work through web-conferencing, video conferencing, VPN/VNC etc.
2) It increases H1B fees by another 1000 dollars. There will be the added cost of advertising on DOL website. Also, the legal costs of navigating the audits. It also enables Tort attorneys to sue the companies on behalf of labor unions such as IEEE-USA, PG, Bright Future Jobs, Zazona etc. In essence it makes the whole visa program unviable. American companies cannot participate in the visa program without letting the DOL and the Tort attorneys poking their noses in the daily functioning of Corporate America. Imagine which company will apply for H1B when you'll have ads airing on TV from Tort attorneys - 'Have you been displaced by H1B worker? Call 1-800-TORT-ATTORNEY'?
3) It has a whole gamut of so-called 'H1B/L1B worker protections'. Unless and until the complaining foreign worker's visa status/GC status is protected against employer retaliation, these provisions will remain only on paper, as foreigner workers facing the prospect of forced departure from the country will not complain - extra worker protections or not. They might as well scrap these provisions and save some trees in the process!
4) It retains the provision that H1B/L1 worker must be provided all originals for H1B, Green Card etc. However this will be moot, as there won't be many H1B/L1 workers left in the US to take the benefit. They would already have moved to their home countries, brining the salaries down in their home countries die to excess supply. This combined with technical enablers are going to make outsourcing HOT. I think it's a good time to invest in the stocks of these outsourcing companies. Their returns are going to increase exponentially in a year. I am not surprised, if these companies send a 'Thank You' note to Senators Durbin and Grassley for making such a windfall possible.
If this year only 44,000 visas were used after half a month, wait until this law passes. There will already 10,000 or less visa applications. On a short term basis wages will sky-rocket, when companies are already struggling to make the ends meet. This will definitely make the usage of technological innovations such as the ones mentioned in point 1 more appealing to the companies. In the long run Outsourcing will become cheaper and more attractive.
Faced with accute worker shortage and unreasonably high-salaries driven scarcity in an economy under recession, Companies will have only 3 options. 1) Announce bankruptcy and get out of business salvaging what they can 2) Leverage technology to do outsourcing circumventing the need for visas 3) Beg the government for another 'Stimulus' and more borrowed money from the Chinese to pay the salaries.
This will hit hard the humanitarian immigration for refugees, asylees etc. USCIS is a government department run on visa application fees. As H1B fee-base reduces US government will have to appropriate more funds to USCIS to keep these programs running. The cost of these programmes will increasingly be borne by the American tax-payer. As jobs keep getting outsourced at a much faster speed tax-base formed by these H1B/L1 workers will shift to other economies benefiting them, the government will have to increases the taxes to make up for the difference. No doubt this will increase the tax burden on an average American - even those who had nothing to do with H1B, pro- or against.
The day this law passes will be a great day for Outsourcing, and a sad day for America.
Please stop H1 Vs L1 discussion and do not support those who aim to divide this community on various visa types, categories, nationalities etc. Any further attempts by any member in this direction will result in ban. We would appreciate if you read the bill posted by IV and provide some analysis on its content on this thread.
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04-18 01:22 PM
I Have done my part of contribution .
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pv_gc
04-07 03:27 PM
I just paid $100 through paypal
smuggymba
03-29 04:01 PM
Alex
I mostly get reds for being honest and stating the facts but that doesnt matter. I have to agree with Nathan, dont get emotional, lets see how to get out of this mess. As you stated, your employer didnt invite you, the only thing he should have done that he didnt do was recalled your petition when it became effective. He will get away with a warning and a small fine unless he has done the same as a pattern.
You can get him in real trouble, (of course but only by doing damage to yourself) by proving you paid the money for the H-1 and I sure here too, you would have given him a check and he would have given a company check to USCIS and you are going to make life more difficult for you than for him as proving you paid the money for the petitionis going to be very difficult.
This is the time to sit back and think what is your real goal. I guess, it was to come here and work hard and succeed not make life miserable for everyone involved. Trust me Honey attracts more flies than vinegar. Speak to your employers softly and try to find a solution. If you need help finding a job, I am sure there are plenty of avenues, especially with the market improving.
Now dont jump into conclusions, that I am another consultant or work for a consultant. I am neither.
HRP
These crooks are intelligent - they take money in Indian rupees and deposit it in their account named after his/her mother. Difficult to prove you paid for H1-B unless you have a recipt/transfer record here in the USA.
I mostly get reds for being honest and stating the facts but that doesnt matter. I have to agree with Nathan, dont get emotional, lets see how to get out of this mess. As you stated, your employer didnt invite you, the only thing he should have done that he didnt do was recalled your petition when it became effective. He will get away with a warning and a small fine unless he has done the same as a pattern.
You can get him in real trouble, (of course but only by doing damage to yourself) by proving you paid the money for the H-1 and I sure here too, you would have given him a check and he would have given a company check to USCIS and you are going to make life more difficult for you than for him as proving you paid the money for the petitionis going to be very difficult.
This is the time to sit back and think what is your real goal. I guess, it was to come here and work hard and succeed not make life miserable for everyone involved. Trust me Honey attracts more flies than vinegar. Speak to your employers softly and try to find a solution. If you need help finding a job, I am sure there are plenty of avenues, especially with the market improving.
Now dont jump into conclusions, that I am another consultant or work for a consultant. I am neither.
HRP
These crooks are intelligent - they take money in Indian rupees and deposit it in their account named after his/her mother. Difficult to prove you paid for H1-B unless you have a recipt/transfer record here in the USA.
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bigboy007
07-18 03:21 PM
when i spoke i didnt speak to normal CS rep they forwarded to me Info officer at Nebraska service center , now the key point is they clearly informed us that they have withdrawn the earlier notice and they said they have to open these july files. If they have just completed june filings they wouldnt have even touched july ones for sure. May be the ones returned which are very small in number are for casing whose dates are not current . for ex. if some one has sent app in normal pririty post expecting to reach on july 2 but reached early and got rejected it happened. so its pretty clear none of us have got the files back , all of three attorneys to comp said the same , my friends attorneys said the same , so we dont get in to too many things now , lets wait till next week or around 25th if we still dont receive then they asked me call back so that they can escalate this , she claims even when they reject they have to create a rejection letter and she clearly told that she was not aware that NSC did that type for these July ones.
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WeShallOvercome
07-18 05:57 PM
I have stayed long enough in United States to say that this Rep is lying.
No mail can take 4 weeks to reach.:eek:
At the most a week but reasonable it will be 3 days.
--sri
May be they are sending the rejected packets to the applicants' overseas address :D
No mail can take 4 weeks to reach.:eek:
At the most a week but reasonable it will be 3 days.
--sri
May be they are sending the rejected packets to the applicants' overseas address :D
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logiclife
03-08 11:23 AM
The FEAR I see among many people is really pathatic, I know couple of friends does not even want to talk to me on phone about this matter thinking that some one might be listening,
Sometimes, the fears arise from watching too many movies. Like the movie "Enemy of the State" where some govt agencies hunt down Will Smith and unravel his life apart. Remember? Gene Hackman : "US Govt has computers underground that are several square miles and they track every wire, every airwave....".
What a bunch of ****.
Firstly, its a movie. Secondly even if its true, what's there to be afraid of??? If you talk on the phone about legal course of action to lobby, why would you be afraid of.
Like I said, you have to give some credit to the Irish. They have the chutzpah of going to lawmaker's offices in DC and say "I am an illegal...I broke the laws and overstayed my visa...please change to law to make everything ok again for me please...". And our community thinks that someone is listening to their phone conversation about how to raise money and lobby for the legal immigrants?????
Sometimes, the fears arise from watching too many movies. Like the movie "Enemy of the State" where some govt agencies hunt down Will Smith and unravel his life apart. Remember? Gene Hackman : "US Govt has computers underground that are several square miles and they track every wire, every airwave....".
What a bunch of ****.
Firstly, its a movie. Secondly even if its true, what's there to be afraid of??? If you talk on the phone about legal course of action to lobby, why would you be afraid of.
Like I said, you have to give some credit to the Irish. They have the chutzpah of going to lawmaker's offices in DC and say "I am an illegal...I broke the laws and overstayed my visa...please change to law to make everything ok again for me please...". And our community thinks that someone is listening to their phone conversation about how to raise money and lobby for the legal immigrants?????
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Raju
07-19 04:29 PM
Guys I know a lot of us contributed, please urge your friends, tell that what IV has achieved and the efforts/time/money spent by IV core. I am sure you will be able to convince atleast one of your friends.
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quizzer
01-30 05:20 PM
I did just now. It was question no 1
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qplearn
11-16 02:06 PM
He hates Illegals and not legal immigrants. I almost have heard him everyday going back home from work and all the time I have heard him saying there are people who legallly coming here for work that he supports. He always has been against "Amnesty" to Illegal Immigrants.
It may be worth a try. Its up to you seniors if you feel its not worth it.
I am not senior in any way; seniority is based on the number of posts. I just expressed my opinion. He is certainly better than people like Lou.
It may be worth a try. Its up to you seniors if you feel its not worth it.
I am not senior in any way; seniority is based on the number of posts. I just expressed my opinion. He is certainly better than people like Lou.
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english_august
07-12 11:10 AM
It would have been great if everyone could have a similar white t-shirt with a slogan on front that said
"Ask me about legal immigrants"
and on the back
"www.immigrationvoice.org"
Obviously this is not possible at this stage. How about everyone at least pinning something similar that is printed on a paper on their shirts? Similar to how runners do (http://z.about.com/d/studenttravel/1/0/s/H/ujena-marathon-solo-2.jpg)
It will help the organizers and any media persons in identifying the rally participants easily.
"Ask me about legal immigrants"
and on the back
"www.immigrationvoice.org"
Obviously this is not possible at this stage. How about everyone at least pinning something similar that is printed on a paper on their shirts? Similar to how runners do (http://z.about.com/d/studenttravel/1/0/s/H/ujena-marathon-solo-2.jpg)
It will help the organizers and any media persons in identifying the rally participants easily.
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gzpain
01-31 03:25 PM
Guys, can any one who has login account in murthy forum post the same message and link? That would still attract more crowd.
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H1B-GC
01-31 09:46 AM
Justed Voted!! Everybody please do it.
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gk_2000
04-20 02:03 PM
@ryan,
Some here are not the gentlemen whom you would have any pleasure discussing with. Better to leave them alone with their rants
Some here are not the gentlemen whom you would have any pleasure discussing with. Better to leave them alone with their rants
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GCard_Dream
01-31 10:40 AM
From what I understand, once the law comes in to affect, labor substitution will no longer be allowed so desi companies can't sell labors anymore. But the 2nd part of the puzzle was that approved labor will only be valid for X number of days (like 45 days as originally proposed) and I am not sure if this impacts the existing labors or not. 45 days expiration may only apply to new labors but no details has emerged yet so we'll have wait and see when the details come out. If it also applies to existing labors then we are home free because after the expiry date, all labors will automatically be canceled. Well, let's wait the for the fine details to come out first.
As for you, it appears that as long as your substitution is approved before the law comes in to effect, there won't be any problem. If not approved by that date then it's kind of fuzzy as to what will happen. If you haven't filed already, just file premium and I am sure you'll have your 140 approved before the law takes effect.
2. If what is stated in immigrationportal about the labor substitution is true, then we don't have any real benefit from the this rule, because all labors certified before the implementation of this rule are not bound by the 45-days time constraint?!? All the so called desi companies may not sell the labors, but would not spend money to cancel it either. So those old labors are going waste as they are still active.
As for you, it appears that as long as your substitution is approved before the law comes in to effect, there won't be any problem. If not approved by that date then it's kind of fuzzy as to what will happen. If you haven't filed already, just file premium and I am sure you'll have your 140 approved before the law takes effect.
2. If what is stated in immigrationportal about the labor substitution is true, then we don't have any real benefit from the this rule, because all labors certified before the implementation of this rule are not bound by the 45-days time constraint?!? All the so called desi companies may not sell the labors, but would not spend money to cancel it either. So those old labors are going waste as they are still active.
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gotgc?
01-30 11:45 PM
just voted..hope this makes it into the debate
gcmaze
07-16 01:56 PM
signed
bondgoli007
11-06 03:35 PM
The intent of the H1B program is not to bring people in the country in "Anticipatory mode" as you put it. The intent of the H1B program had always been for US employers to hire foreign skilled workers "On-Demand" when no american is willing, qualified or able to do the said job. Prior to 1999, the visa cap was 65000/yr WITHOUT the extra master's degree cap we have now, and still visas were never totally used up for any year, certainly not on the first day. It is only after the advent of the IT consulting companies hoarding visas in "anticipation" of future jobs that the problems started. Without any restrictions on this kind of abuse, no amount of H1 visa increase would be sufficient. They are talking of raising visas to 130,000 right? Based on the FY 2008 applications, those visas would be used up in TWO DAYS!
IMHO, the intent of the H1B program is equally important than just loopholes (or not) in the letter of the law.
Well said...We are all here due to the H1B visa and I am Thankful for it. However the fact is there is some fraud that goes on. It surely is not be as much as anti H1 folks contend it is but there is some prevention that can be done.
The argument about anticipatory mode will not sit well with even most in this forum. The program is supposed to be on demand..If the visas are running out on first day, then the blame does go to the the anticipatory applications that eat up visas from actual engineers who have a job offers.
Sen Grassley is somewhat right...however, without any parallel reforms in the EB process, all his speech did was come across as simply anti H1. If he is really concerned about the H1 program and its potential benefit , he should be equally be concerned about the H1B employees who are in the EB Immi limbo. So far from his track record, I am not inclined to hold any hope that he will equally pursue EB reforms.
I totally agree with the post from WeShallOvercome....I absolutely feel the same way!
IMHO, the intent of the H1B program is equally important than just loopholes (or not) in the letter of the law.
Well said...We are all here due to the H1B visa and I am Thankful for it. However the fact is there is some fraud that goes on. It surely is not be as much as anti H1 folks contend it is but there is some prevention that can be done.
The argument about anticipatory mode will not sit well with even most in this forum. The program is supposed to be on demand..If the visas are running out on first day, then the blame does go to the the anticipatory applications that eat up visas from actual engineers who have a job offers.
Sen Grassley is somewhat right...however, without any parallel reforms in the EB process, all his speech did was come across as simply anti H1. If he is really concerned about the H1 program and its potential benefit , he should be equally be concerned about the H1B employees who are in the EB Immi limbo. So far from his track record, I am not inclined to hold any hope that he will equally pursue EB reforms.
I totally agree with the post from WeShallOvercome....I absolutely feel the same way!
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