alisa
01-28 11:13 AM
Guys......
Lets try to get more people involved, and get them to contribute. Talk to your friends. Convince them that they need to invest in IV now, to get results in the next six weeks to six months.
Updates from core are unnecessary. Either things will happen in Febuary (485 filing) or they won't. We will find out in a few weeks.
Try to increase membership and contributions at this point. The purpose of this thread was to try to estimate and predict visa bulletin times, so we could convince people they were in a bad situation; but we found that to be pretty difficult to do. If you can add to that topic, please feel free to do so. Otherwise, this thread should just be closed.
In the new year, I have not seen any posts expalining how IV is "working" on resolving our issues. All that is posted now is requests for money. I know more money is needed and would be glad to contribute, if only the senior members show that some serious efforts are being made in the background. Yes IV did do very good work last year, but that is history now; but what work is going on now, nobody knows. Don't need details, but even broad details will help. Is something being done for appropriation bills, no one knows or tells.
For example, after the elections no attempts virtually no attempts have been done to do webfax campaign tragetted towards pro-immigration inclined politicians. No lists have been made of such politicians. Just by waking up few days before the bills are discussed is not going to help.
Lets try to get more people involved, and get them to contribute. Talk to your friends. Convince them that they need to invest in IV now, to get results in the next six weeks to six months.
Updates from core are unnecessary. Either things will happen in Febuary (485 filing) or they won't. We will find out in a few weeks.
Try to increase membership and contributions at this point. The purpose of this thread was to try to estimate and predict visa bulletin times, so we could convince people they were in a bad situation; but we found that to be pretty difficult to do. If you can add to that topic, please feel free to do so. Otherwise, this thread should just be closed.
In the new year, I have not seen any posts expalining how IV is "working" on resolving our issues. All that is posted now is requests for money. I know more money is needed and would be glad to contribute, if only the senior members show that some serious efforts are being made in the background. Yes IV did do very good work last year, but that is history now; but what work is going on now, nobody knows. Don't need details, but even broad details will help. Is something being done for appropriation bills, no one knows or tells.
For example, after the elections no attempts virtually no attempts have been done to do webfax campaign tragetted towards pro-immigration inclined politicians. No lists have been made of such politicians. Just by waking up few days before the bills are discussed is not going to help.
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mantric
02-17 05:07 AM
canuck has a point, although his wording is not the best.
our own self respect should come first when we are faced with economic coercion of our choices. we came here not as beggars but with skills to offer to employers. in exchange for commitment and hard work there was a promise to a path to permanent residency. we have a right to live here as employees without constant and undue stress because of discriminatory laws and unreasonable delays that constrain our advancement in the very careers that brought us here. this much is true of all EB immigrants.
self-respect is not a question of not obeying laws but of challenging them when they turn out to be unfair and discriminatory to hard working, tax paying residents. this issue is central, not the fact that i came from one country or another.
now if you look at rajiv khanna's lawsuit against USCIS, the main reason USCIS won was because of their argument that i-485 filers were not a unified class. so USCIS used the very argument that these filers were divided to win the case. when USCIS itself has used this argument of divisions between immigrants against legal eb immigrants howcome we are reluctant to admit this policy ?
the instruments of control are much more refined now than they used to be in the days of slavery and divide and rule. but they do exist in and it is for us to recognize them as such. that's the first step to freedom.
our own self respect should come first when we are faced with economic coercion of our choices. we came here not as beggars but with skills to offer to employers. in exchange for commitment and hard work there was a promise to a path to permanent residency. we have a right to live here as employees without constant and undue stress because of discriminatory laws and unreasonable delays that constrain our advancement in the very careers that brought us here. this much is true of all EB immigrants.
self-respect is not a question of not obeying laws but of challenging them when they turn out to be unfair and discriminatory to hard working, tax paying residents. this issue is central, not the fact that i came from one country or another.
now if you look at rajiv khanna's lawsuit against USCIS, the main reason USCIS won was because of their argument that i-485 filers were not a unified class. so USCIS used the very argument that these filers were divided to win the case. when USCIS itself has used this argument of divisions between immigrants against legal eb immigrants howcome we are reluctant to admit this policy ?
the instruments of control are much more refined now than they used to be in the days of slavery and divide and rule. but they do exist in and it is for us to recognize them as such. that's the first step to freedom.
pray
08-16 02:52 PM
Because you guys are not as clever as EB2s.
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MahaBharatGC
10-22 04:40 PM
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All - plz take it easy as this is solely individual opinion.
When a country is prospering means the jobs are getting created. That is what happened until Clinton Era. But I know that this cannot be forever. Every field is going to reach the peak, falls back and hopefully straightens.
Our IT field is somewhat dependent on other industries to create jobs. So, if other industries are all shipping the operations to foreign soil or loosing steam due to competition in free trade how well a country can prosper. You cannot have 100% service oriented country...it is only possible for small countries like Singapore...but not for big countries like US of A where they have plenty of land.
So, my point here is if you want GC you should have job now (EBn) and future. So, if jobs are getting created then you will have job today and tomorrow too.
So, simply saying "I support immigration" does not mean anything. It could be a REAL political statement like our famous Indian politicians. So, at this time I do not believe nobody as this is all still nacent. once someone takes office, we should be ready to push with our goals in mind.
It is good to debate between one another but let us have plans to how to deal for our existence...
All - plz take it easy as this is solely individual opinion.
When a country is prospering means the jobs are getting created. That is what happened until Clinton Era. But I know that this cannot be forever. Every field is going to reach the peak, falls back and hopefully straightens.
Our IT field is somewhat dependent on other industries to create jobs. So, if other industries are all shipping the operations to foreign soil or loosing steam due to competition in free trade how well a country can prosper. You cannot have 100% service oriented country...it is only possible for small countries like Singapore...but not for big countries like US of A where they have plenty of land.
So, my point here is if you want GC you should have job now (EBn) and future. So, if jobs are getting created then you will have job today and tomorrow too.
So, simply saying "I support immigration" does not mean anything. It could be a REAL political statement like our famous Indian politicians. So, at this time I do not believe nobody as this is all still nacent. once someone takes office, we should be ready to push with our goals in mind.
It is good to debate between one another but let us have plans to how to deal for our existence...
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gcisadawg
12-16 05:50 PM
Can you imagine, Microsoft getting a RFE from USCIS to show "ability to pay"! We have so many people yelling on these forums because companies do not have the ability to pay to these "highly skilled workers".
Kumar1,
You never know. GE was considered the bluest of the blue chips! Look at what is happening! Within no time, it fell off the cliff! How many storied wall st. investment banks are left standing? If open source takes off with real wings and an efficient replacement for MS-office ( already started to come) arrives, MSFT itself may not be there to answer 'RFE' issues...
Btw, I believe we are here because we are needed. High skilled or not is a different issue. For some, nothing is Rocket science except Rocket science itself! Why would anyone give us a H1B visa, renew it year after year and allow us to apply for Green card? They can easily pull the plug by
1> Stopping all future H1Bs first...No more H1s from Fiscal 2010 onwards.
2> Existing H1Bs who havent applied for a GC will not be allowed and have to go after the term ends. ( you might see H1B substitution where a guy with 5 years left on his H1B can trade for the highest bidder)
3> Existing H1B who have applied for GC and in various stages of processing....would either be rejceted OR asked to re-start the process under stringent guidelines.
US should be doing all or some of the above if they think H1Bs are NOT needed.
Peace,
GCisaDawg
Kumar1,
You never know. GE was considered the bluest of the blue chips! Look at what is happening! Within no time, it fell off the cliff! How many storied wall st. investment banks are left standing? If open source takes off with real wings and an efficient replacement for MS-office ( already started to come) arrives, MSFT itself may not be there to answer 'RFE' issues...
Btw, I believe we are here because we are needed. High skilled or not is a different issue. For some, nothing is Rocket science except Rocket science itself! Why would anyone give us a H1B visa, renew it year after year and allow us to apply for Green card? They can easily pull the plug by
1> Stopping all future H1Bs first...No more H1s from Fiscal 2010 onwards.
2> Existing H1Bs who havent applied for a GC will not be allowed and have to go after the term ends. ( you might see H1B substitution where a guy with 5 years left on his H1B can trade for the highest bidder)
3> Existing H1B who have applied for GC and in various stages of processing....would either be rejceted OR asked to re-start the process under stringent guidelines.
US should be doing all or some of the above if they think H1Bs are NOT needed.
Peace,
GCisaDawg
logiclife
01-30 04:01 PM
Point 3 was for the employer refunding the employee for the H1 costs after completing 6 months on project.
Well it is an accepted fact that Employers need to pay for H1 sponsorship but desi companies hardly follow the rules. Well I don't understand from you point above why paying for H1 expenses means I am breaking the law. Rather it should be the employer who is breaking the law.
Good point. Employer would be breaking the law by asking you to pay and accepting payment for immigration fees. And frankly, I am not sure if there is a statute or a regulation that prevents that. I think its a regulation. So it would be a regulatory issue, not a statutory issue. And then again, paying would make you a willing participant so I dont know what your culpability would be.
And yes, desi companies hardly follow the rules and bend/break them every day.
And I am not saying that you should go or should not go for it. I am just saying that what you hear from them before you start working is only half the story and there are other unethical practices they engage in. So finally its your call if its worth it. Especially if you are close to getting 485 and EAD, then I would think its not worth going thru that nonsense of H4 to H1 especially with a desi employer.
Well it is an accepted fact that Employers need to pay for H1 sponsorship but desi companies hardly follow the rules. Well I don't understand from you point above why paying for H1 expenses means I am breaking the law. Rather it should be the employer who is breaking the law.
Good point. Employer would be breaking the law by asking you to pay and accepting payment for immigration fees. And frankly, I am not sure if there is a statute or a regulation that prevents that. I think its a regulation. So it would be a regulatory issue, not a statutory issue. And then again, paying would make you a willing participant so I dont know what your culpability would be.
And yes, desi companies hardly follow the rules and bend/break them every day.
And I am not saying that you should go or should not go for it. I am just saying that what you hear from them before you start working is only half the story and there are other unethical practices they engage in. So finally its your call if its worth it. Especially if you are close to getting 485 and EAD, then I would think its not worth going thru that nonsense of H4 to H1 especially with a desi employer.
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alex99
11-05 03:58 PM
Bump
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07-03 02:44 PM
where's the petetion, where do we sign?
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Green_Always
08-08 09:39 AM
Add Wachovia now acquired by Wells Fargo to the list. They don't even do H1 extensions.
Really ?? My Friend works there and he says he is getting his H1 renewed and also applying for GC. He works in NY Office in Manhattan and he often travels to NC.
Really ?? My Friend works there and he says he is getting his H1 renewed and also applying for GC. He works in NY Office in Manhattan and he often travels to NC.
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thirdworldman
03-09 10:56 PM
Oh yeah, I know my bench sucks.
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Jaime
09-11 01:12 PM
This aint my fight... This aint your fight..
THIS IS OUR FIGHT!!!
We need to come together & let our voices be heard!!!
Come to DC...
There is very little time & lots to achieve...
There are miles to go before I sleep.....Well said! This is OUR fight! Let's go guys! EVERYONE TO DC!!!!
THIS IS OUR FIGHT!!!
We need to come together & let our voices be heard!!!
Come to DC...
There is very little time & lots to achieve...
There are miles to go before I sleep.....Well said! This is OUR fight! Let's go guys! EVERYONE TO DC!!!!
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voldemar
06-20 06:01 PM
its illegal to take color photocopies of driver licences, ONLY send b/wAnd wait for RFE.
USCIS is asking for COLOR copies of DL and passport.
USCIS is asking for COLOR copies of DL and passport.
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manishcp
09-26 10:00 AM
All IV memeber show your support.
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abhishek101
03-12 11:27 AM
IV needs to OPEN ITS BOOKS
And show DONORS where their money is going? Where is the sponsors money going? and what is this ORGANIZATION planning to do. IF not, one these days they will find themselves in a audit and public scrutiny.
Any yes people who says open your eyes? Have you got your GC? EAD is only a means and not the destination
PAPU, you need to explain to all IV members and disclose the books and what you are doing as IV head, and dont give me the bull, of we are working, you want our support, we want clarity and real action.
cmphr, kumarc123,
I have one question for you why are you visiting IV website, you have nothing better to do?
First of all IV is not forcing you or any body to come here on the website. If you have issues you are most welcome to stop coming to the website.
SO STOP BROWSING IV, you are waisting our precious bandwidth ( for which we have to pay) because you can only shout rather than doing anything constructive.
We can make sure your account gets deleted from the website and records and you are banned from the place.
Actually we as a community are better off if we can get rid of people like you.
Pappu really does not owe anything to any of you actually you owe a lot of money to him. He spends his precious time giving you updates and you only can act as an A**.
I would highly recommend to ban people like you .
And show DONORS where their money is going? Where is the sponsors money going? and what is this ORGANIZATION planning to do. IF not, one these days they will find themselves in a audit and public scrutiny.
Any yes people who says open your eyes? Have you got your GC? EAD is only a means and not the destination
PAPU, you need to explain to all IV members and disclose the books and what you are doing as IV head, and dont give me the bull, of we are working, you want our support, we want clarity and real action.
cmphr, kumarc123,
I have one question for you why are you visiting IV website, you have nothing better to do?
First of all IV is not forcing you or any body to come here on the website. If you have issues you are most welcome to stop coming to the website.
SO STOP BROWSING IV, you are waisting our precious bandwidth ( for which we have to pay) because you can only shout rather than doing anything constructive.
We can make sure your account gets deleted from the website and records and you are banned from the place.
Actually we as a community are better off if we can get rid of people like you.
Pappu really does not owe anything to any of you actually you owe a lot of money to him. He spends his precious time giving you updates and you only can act as an A**.
I would highly recommend to ban people like you .
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09-11 11:31 AM
HR 5882 was approved by sub-committee last month and is currently awaiting markup by house judiciary committee, once the markup is done it may be sent to the floor of congress for debate and vote
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vbkris77
04-06 09:39 PM
Look below the URL. If they are doing it. It is legal. But If some one is denied entry, they can also challenge the decision. Consultants especially will need to use proper/legal answers.
http://www.golishlaw.com/statutes/ina212.htm
(5) Labor certification and qualifications for certain immigrants.-
(A) Labor certification.-
(i) In general.-Any alien who seeks to enter the United States for the purpose of performing skilled or unskilled labor is inadmissible, unless the Secretary of Labor has determined and certified to the Secretary of State and the Attorney General that-
(I) there are not sufficient workers who are able, willing, qualified (or equally qualified in the case of an alien described in clause (ii)) and available at the time of application for a visa and admission to the United States and at the place where the alien is to perform such skilled or unskilled labor, and
(II) the employment of such alien will not adversely affect the wages and working conditions of workers in the United States similarly employed.
(ii) Certain aliens subject to special rule.-For purposes of clause (i)(I), an alien described in this clause is an alien who-
(I) is a member of the teaching profession, or
(II) has exceptional ability in the sciences or the arts.
http://www.golishlaw.com/statutes/ina212.htm
(5) Labor certification and qualifications for certain immigrants.-
(A) Labor certification.-
(i) In general.-Any alien who seeks to enter the United States for the purpose of performing skilled or unskilled labor is inadmissible, unless the Secretary of Labor has determined and certified to the Secretary of State and the Attorney General that-
(I) there are not sufficient workers who are able, willing, qualified (or equally qualified in the case of an alien described in clause (ii)) and available at the time of application for a visa and admission to the United States and at the place where the alien is to perform such skilled or unskilled labor, and
(II) the employment of such alien will not adversely affect the wages and working conditions of workers in the United States similarly employed.
(ii) Certain aliens subject to special rule.-For purposes of clause (i)(I), an alien described in this clause is an alien who-
(I) is a member of the teaching profession, or
(II) has exceptional ability in the sciences or the arts.
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07-05 12:34 PM
I just contributed my first $100.00. Go IV!
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bestofall
07-30 12:13 PM
URGENT UPDATE: HR5882 scheduled for tomorrow - PLEASE CALL
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House Immigration Sub-Committee is planning on mark up Congresswoman Lofgren's recapture bill tomorrow (Thursday) afternoon in her subcommittee. This is an extremely IMPORTANT development. We are hoping that an agreement reached such that there is no party line vote on this effort. As such all members are requested to PLEASE PLEASE call the following members on the subcommittee requesting them to support Lofgren's recapture bill H.R.5882.
Majority Members (Democrats)
Member Name DC Phone
Luis V. Gutierrez (D-IL) 202-225-8203
Howard L. Berman (D-CA) 202-225-4695
Sheila Jackson-Lee (D-TX) 202-225-3816
Maxine Waters (D-CA) 202-225-2201
Bill Delahunt (D-MA) 202-225-3111
Linda T. Sanchez (D-CA) 202-225-6676
Artur Davis (D-AL) 202-225-2665
Keith Ellison (D-MN) 202-225-4755
Anthony Weiner (D-NY) 202-225-6616
Minority Members (Republicans)
Member Name DC Phone
Steve King (R-IA) [Ranking Member]202-225-4426
Elton Gallegly (R-CA) 202-225-5811
Bob Goodlatte (R-VA) 202-225-5431
Dan Lungren (R-CA) 202-225-5716
J. Randy Forbes (R-VA) 202-225-6365
Louie Gohmert (R-TX) 202-225-3035
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House Immigration Sub-Committee is planning on mark up Congresswoman Lofgren's recapture bill tomorrow (Thursday) afternoon in her subcommittee. This is an extremely IMPORTANT development. We are hoping that an agreement reached such that there is no party line vote on this effort. As such all members are requested to PLEASE PLEASE call the following members on the subcommittee requesting them to support Lofgren's recapture bill H.R.5882.
Majority Members (Democrats)
Member Name DC Phone
Luis V. Gutierrez (D-IL) 202-225-8203
Howard L. Berman (D-CA) 202-225-4695
Sheila Jackson-Lee (D-TX) 202-225-3816
Maxine Waters (D-CA) 202-225-2201
Bill Delahunt (D-MA) 202-225-3111
Linda T. Sanchez (D-CA) 202-225-6676
Artur Davis (D-AL) 202-225-2665
Keith Ellison (D-MN) 202-225-4755
Anthony Weiner (D-NY) 202-225-6616
Minority Members (Republicans)
Member Name DC Phone
Steve King (R-IA) [Ranking Member]202-225-4426
Elton Gallegly (R-CA) 202-225-5811
Bob Goodlatte (R-VA) 202-225-5431
Dan Lungren (R-CA) 202-225-5716
J. Randy Forbes (R-VA) 202-225-6365
Louie Gohmert (R-TX) 202-225-3035
Administrator2
06-11 01:35 PM
If you really believe that this bogus bill will become a Law, then also see the real picture, that is why I posted the other Ifs.
This Bill is titled as "Employ America Act". By having the GC, you are not an American. If you do not know the rule here it is, GC is a "Privilege", and it is not a "Right". So if this Bill passes all these people with alerady having GC will also need to pack their Bags and Go. That is the reality, dude.
So again and again do not fall over it. If you respond to this Bill, and Vote "No" against it, you are trying to send wrong messages to the originators of the bill, that we are scared. Why you guys are making everyone scared, when there is nothing to be scared about.
Look I don't want to say this to you but I am left with no other choice. When CEOs such as Steve Ballmer and John Chambers are personally calling the Senators because they think this amendment is a real threat, it will be least of our worries what opponents would think about us getting scared. We are not scared, we are simply making our voices heard. If we were scared we won't be doing this.
Now, you have no freaking clue of what is going on behind the scenes, this is your third post in this forum and all these posts in opposition to our action item which we are coordinating with other coalition partners. Why do you think you know more than the folks who are right now speaking with the Senators?
This Bill is titled as "Employ America Act". By having the GC, you are not an American. If you do not know the rule here it is, GC is a "Privilege", and it is not a "Right". So if this Bill passes all these people with alerady having GC will also need to pack their Bags and Go. That is the reality, dude.
So again and again do not fall over it. If you respond to this Bill, and Vote "No" against it, you are trying to send wrong messages to the originators of the bill, that we are scared. Why you guys are making everyone scared, when there is nothing to be scared about.
Look I don't want to say this to you but I am left with no other choice. When CEOs such as Steve Ballmer and John Chambers are personally calling the Senators because they think this amendment is a real threat, it will be least of our worries what opponents would think about us getting scared. We are not scared, we are simply making our voices heard. If we were scared we won't be doing this.
Now, you have no freaking clue of what is going on behind the scenes, this is your third post in this forum and all these posts in opposition to our action item which we are coordinating with other coalition partners. Why do you think you know more than the folks who are right now speaking with the Senators?
BharatPremi
03-17 01:05 PM
42% of all EB3 Green Card has priority date before December 2003!!! Man I am in deep Sh.. hmm trouble.. :eek:
No 42% load is before June 2003 and before, in other words before July 2003.
No 42% load is before June 2003 and before, in other words before July 2003.
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